valery legasov tapes transcript

There was a mulberry-coloured or even crimson glow visible above the station, which is opposite of what is usual for a nuclear power station. It is told mainly through the stories of two real-life people Valery Legasov a chemist tasked to lead a. Until such time as something was being thrown out of reactor number 4, redundant projects kept appearing, like creating a sort of a skull cap over reactor number 4. And I saw the face of that man who, on the one hand, was very proud that he had managed to do this difficult task in such difficult conditions. Such technical means and devices which are generally used in many military systems, in missile complexes, in nuclear weapons, had not been used. This increase in the number of people required new ways of organizing work because it was no longer possible to personally give specific instructions and be done with it. He left without punishment, so to say. But even before the work on the sarcophagus ended, work began on checking the condition of the equipment in the 3rd block. However, that American article did say that although Soviet nuclear industry in terms of input capacity is not at the world-class level, the reactor concepts adopted in the Soviet Union are physically correct and sound, and that the Soviet reactor construction specialists are good. And nuclear equipment has become just one in a range of manufactured items. On April 28, Legasov was supposed to disclose to the government the data of his own investigation into the causes of the Chernobyl disaster. However, in between his praise he somewhat abruptly mentioned that there had been an accident at Chernobyl. [2] In 19491954, he attended School No. We had to get in touch to solve some family issues, which of course remained unsolved. It played the role of iron but without the oxidisation. That I, for example, even managed to drop by home to tell my wife that I was leaving on a business trip. It was I who proposed using liquid nitrogen for cooling. The direct opposite to the work of this group was the work of, for example, the Civil Defence group in the composition in which they operated in the initial days. That is why the words of Nikolai Ivanovich Ryzhkov should be understood in a much wider context. The first way is to briefly, clearly and plainly explain that, from the very beginning, the Soviet Union did not conceal anything. To our surprise, or at least to mine, we were not presented with sufficiently precise information of the situation in the plant or the city; the only precise report was about the accident, that it had happened in reactor number 4 while conducting a non-standard experiment of the turbo-generator operation when the turbine was in free run. It is only for myself. Since when has this mistake begun to be corrected? We, as experts, were saying that. And a station without containment would have contaminated everything. The applied part was awarded the Lenin prize. In the next section, after the consequences of the accident have been described, the current research and agricultural measures that are being carried out right now must be outlined. These reactors had shown their considerable superiorities, in terms of efficiency, potential water consumption for cooling the reactor, and the range of uses of such reactors in technological processes. The heating up could continue and some vertical movement of this fuel mass may occur. For example, certain numbers are sent: 1-2-3-4. Already the name of Gorbachev is being tarnished all over the world because of this accident. Because, in principle, with the correct configuration of graphite and with less volume inserted into the zone, this graphite inhibitor could, of course, hold the vapour coefficient within allowable quantities. How can I listen to Valery Legasov tapes? On April 26th, 1986, a nuclear explosion at the Chernobyl power plant rocked the area near the Ukrainian town of Pripyat, spreading giant clouds of radioactive material across 77,000 square miles of land. It, in my opinion, is wrong. The first design mistake was that there should be at least two emergency protection systems, as required by international standards and as common sense suggests. Subsequently, there were a few days of active emission of radioactive particles, fuel, mainly due to the graphite burning. Legasov: Well, how should I put this. It is necessary to get rid of people who interfere with work. Two years and one day after the disaster, Legasov took his own life, though not before recording a distillation of his side of the story onto five compact cassette tapes. Legasov: No, as far as I know, Petrosyants was not specifically involved in these matters. The natural air circulation was so strong that this nitrogen was like a drop in the ocean. great successes in the construction of which were achieved, he said in passing, The Chernobyl station belonged to the neighboring Ministry, the Ministry o. of accident, but it will not stop the development of nuclear energy. To such as extent that I could not imagine the scale of this accident from the available information. But also with some reliable design It requires that if you have some kind of emergency protection system which stops, say, a car, a train or something else, then you must have at least two protection systems. And then they paid attention. [1] Around June 1987, he attempted suicide but was saved by his colleagues. By the way, looking back, I want to say once again that the question of how positive reactivity was added is a matter of discussion. All this work was done by the Soviet Ministry of Water and by the Ukrainian Ministry of Waterdone within a remarkably short time. In this reactor, 1,700 tons. And the pinnacle of these achievements was Gagarins flight into space. This operation was carried out. The same thing was done to all surfaces that could produce dust. The dams were designed and built immediately but this was also accompanied by research work. But then, in a conversation, he said that RBMK reactors are very dangerous. People will start to pack for too long. There were reverse cases as well, when, say, where should have been a wall according to the drawings, in reality, was a doorway. Adamovich: Sorry, but the first commission, they must have then called. Based on the wind rose, on dispersion, within a radius of 300 kilometres, with entry into China, all life will be destroyed. But nevertheless, the psychological shock and, say, because of that psychological shock, cardiovascular dystonia was found in a large number of experts and continues to be found up until now. All this has to be done. So I was caught on the road and, after the Politburo, sent back again. The transfer was entirely unjustified. Two of these ten projects, I am afraid, will have the same fate, and for roughly the same reasons. What was this fateful mistake? And, each time considerably different figures and results were reported, from astonishingly high to relatively moderate. Do you understand? Because in the military industry, with a limited number of devices, strict military acceptance at multiple timesmilitary acceptance at the manufacturer, military acceptance during the operationmultiple examinations, staff retraining, etc And when you suddenly, with the same device, enter the domestic infrastructure where there is nothing similarno simulators, no training systems, no training systems at all, not to mention the training systems for emergencies. All the effort of decontaminators needed to be focussed on fully normalizing the conditions in the 3rd block and also on cleaning the construction base. This was, I think, in 1985. So changes to the regulation are introduced for one device but not for another. There were not enough of these devices for everyone who were involved in the work. [26] Legasov noted that the operators were able to disable the reactor safety systems and stated that improvements to existing RBMK reactors were underway. Legasov: No, no such duration. [7] However, news of progress made by Neil Bartlett in Canada caused Legasov to switch his interest to noble gas chemistry. The diagnostic wells worked continuously and measured the radioactivity of the groundwater, and if required, the service wells could be turned on to pump out the contaminated water. So it was impossible to load it into the helicopters, first of all. My responsibilities included chemical physics, and separation of isotopes and substances, as well as the use of nuclear energy in the domestic infrastructure in the form of isotopes or something else. The work was like a well organized science team. Work was the man, almost the only meaning of his life. After that, all three of us signed that note and sent it to Gorbachev. There was a need for saving. This, roughly speaking, was the situation. I remember how during the war there were two types of daily communications which were published in our newspapers or TASS reports: where we recaptured German-occupied points, where we retreated, where we took a large number of prisoners, where we suffered a partial defeat. Finally, a decision was made to chop down part of the forest, transport it, bury it, and to simply convert the remaining area into a burial ground, to restrict access to it, which has been done. Although it must be said, there were separate cases of looting or intrusions into the zone with the aim of stealing. And this caused appropriate alarm among professionals, in technical and engineering sense. I assume there are 7 tapes as mentioned in the Chernobyl miniseries and have been released on YouTube, but can't seem to get my hands on it. At the same time, the group that I had called, led by comrade Schupak Aleksander Fyodorovich from our institute, was researching ways to inject these components into the soil in order to absorb the most mobile radionuclides, Caesium being one of them. But he is too meritorious, has done too much for the country to talk about it in this way, but, Adamovich: [QUESTION ABOUT ALEXANDROV SAYING THAT THE RBMK REACTOR CAN BE PUT IN RED SQUARE]. The responsibilities were distributed in such a way that everything that was outside of the 30-kilometre zone was controlled both from the air and from the ground by the Goskomgidromet [State Committee on Hydrometeorology] led by member-correspondent Yury Antonovich Izrael. So in the evening, Ivan Stepanovich solemnly thanked him and gave him a package with a thousand roubles. But the refueling itself took only 18-19 days, while for us it takes around a month and a half, and upto two months at times. The energy leadership started to regard the importance of this element with great understanding, although without fully realizing the seriousness of this issue themselves. It made all the decisions, reviewed all the projects, all the comments, and led all the work. The scale of contamination in the areas adjacent to the Chernobyl station, as well as the scale of contamination around the world, is more or less known to us. I must say that, of course, there were many senseless things done in the course of this work. I recall, perhaps, only one statement by Professor Ivanov from Moscow Engineering-Physics Institute. Specialists exhibited confidence in these aspects. As of today, it has been absolutely reliably established, and it must be unambiguously written, that there were two consecutive explosions, the second more powerful than the first. However, I will repeat myself that the evacuation had been carried out at such a time when the radiation levels of Pripyat were not that high; and therefore the level of contamination of the items, as well as the people themselves, was also not high. And our design organizations started to work with containments. It has all the designers; everyone remained with them, whereas the Ministry of Energy is purely an operational institution. And above 75 rem, it is mandatory. Because, well, one telegram was just provocative, clearly provocative. When on an even surface but inside strong radiation fields, their electronics, usually the control modules, failed making them inoperable. The already-scouted areas were showing higher radiation levels, and the number of such areas was increasing. And the second part should be about how it will be necessary to inspect, control and mutually verify the level of safety in nuclear energy in the international plan. All of this reflected a certain general serious technological inefficiency and indiscipline in almost all crucial areas of our work. They then themselves went to the most contaminated areas and covered them with these solutions. The army divisions, together with the organizations of Ministry of Medium Machine Building, were cleaning the roofs of the building where the 3rd and 4th blocks of the Chernobyl NPP were. And this part is tragic, confusing and incomprehensible. During thisthis may not be for publishing or maybe it isdo you know what caught my eye? This is what led them, and directed their actions. I was certainly irritated by the situation that had developed between the Ministry and the science leadership. About the station itself, the history of, construction, its exploitation, I'll talk a little later, so as not to interrupt the. All this was mandatory every day. those who have already been convicted at Chernobyl are criminals because they committed unthinkable actions and they were convicted absolutely legally. Now once again, solely an engineering approach is used when one device is compared to another. Although, I must say that for those devices that do not have containments, these measures will probably not be enough. A proper management system had to be established for scientific research, design and execution of projects across all these very diverse areas of work. And there never was a caseand there were many such occasions [when soldiers were asked to help]where someone, as they say, remained in the ranks, and did not step forward to help us carry out various, sometimes very difficult, tasks. In case the Dniepers water became contaminated above the permissible concentrations, the city could be supplied using alternate sources of water. Many prefabricated houses were ordered, made both in Finland and in the Soviet Union. Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide Because in all other cases, he fought for the right things, even though it was difficult to fight. This confusion was seen even in small things. The problems of preventing the radionuclides from getting into the Pripyat river were solved. It melts and has high volatilization [sic] of saturated vapours. Look, the fire ended, Adamovich: It started at around four or five in the evening. From a safety point of view, it even stood out as being better, as I understood from the discussions. Various suggestions were made. The 26th of April, 1986 was a Saturday, a beautiful day and I was thinking of either going to my university department and finishing something for them, or maybe letting things slide and going with my wife, Margarita Mikhailovna, and my friend to rest somewhere, or of going to the party activists meetin. Then, no organisation would take on the development of an unconventional compressor or an unconventional, say, heat exchanger, again driven by the lack of needed material or experience. [7], Excessive hierarchy has always been contraindicated for science, it stifles it. And when Nikolai Ivanovich Rizhkov in a politburo meeting spoke his words about how nuclear energy was inevitably moving towards a grave accident, immediately all these facts, accumulated over many years, somehow aligned in my mind, and his words highlighted that it really was so. For example, the press spent a lot of time on the so-called needle which was fiddled with for a long time. New approaches were not welcomed. In September, the work of the substitute Government Commission had ended. Starting from the entrance to the station, its external signage, personnel training. 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