Second, your wife may have been shitface drunk when she blabbed your secret, but she should have refused to talk about it thereafter. Her calling it bi shit, begrudgingly doing it, thinking of someone else. Im so lost. Me: girls, get your better halves and get the fuck out of my house They all pop right up and walk past me. I think that you need a good week to try and think about how you feel, how you're going to be able to contain the gossip and how you move forward with the wife . Get your better halves and get the fuck out of my house as I tipped my fedora and winked at my wifes hottest friend who was clearly impressed by my rage erection that had partially split the seam in my relaxed fit Levi 501s. This has big sad middle America vibes or something. I am so sorry. Sending you strength. Take care of yourself, you have the right to take more time if you need it. Although, bi men have it way worse. You're married to the person who should MOST be on your side and she has completely betrayed you for a fucking laugh. I'm wondering if your lack of fighting in your communication may be related to her not being open and honest with you as you are with her. And can think clearly. Take some you time and work out where you are that's your starting point my man edit good luck. Any other friends you have in common likely know. Partners that demand that have no respect for you. This is probably something couples therapy can help you navigate. First, I am so sorry she made those statements for whatever the reason. The guys almost definitely do not give a fuck. A random guy you barely know has stuck more by you tonight than your own wife does on the regular. If you feel this can be fixed, try couples counseling, but honestly I only see this ending one way. Very much agree with this person right here. Your wife IMMEDIATELY tried to gaslight you as soon as she found out you heard what she had said. If she did "accidentally" let it slip that you're bi, why did she continue talking with them about your sexuality in any context? One day he throws a temper tantrum, and instead of talking with me about his insecurities, he goes off and tells everyone about it. If they outed me and mocked our sex life with their friends, I would never be able to be intimate with them again. I would divorce my husband if he let his friends make comments about my sexuality, and then proceeded to say he fantasized about other women during sex. That is a messy situation. So props to you. If she does it again then it's a bigger issue but i'm sure this will be a big learning moment for her and you will both be in a better place for it. Your wife doesn't have your back. To me this is an unfortunate situation one you would never have known about but for some low key curious snooping and snooping isn't meant as you were being a sneaky individual just a situation happened and you were part off it. I honestly don't know if your marriage can survive this. You shouldnt have to hide your true self, nor be ashamed of it. If you find happiness, people may be jealous. I mean, what you probably should have done was just walk quietly back to the garage and talk about it in private with your wife later- like an adult. She chose to prioritize platonic bonds over her marriage and honestly just participated in casual homophobia at the expense of her husband. Once you know how you need to move forward, she can either own her awful behavior and support you or she can kick rocks. She knows shes an ass, and her friends know their actions were trash. Oh buddy, I'm sorry you've had this happen to you. I'm not sure how your marriage survives without professional help. From one bi to another, I'm sorry you had to go through this, it's a bisexual's nightmare scenario to hear your long-term partner say this kind of shit. As Ive gotten older and talked/listened to more and more people, it definitely seems like most toxic masculinity stems from mens encounters with women they trusted, not other men. If you don't care about your partner enough to defend them when they aren't there, why the fuck are you even with them? But, she finally conceded maybe he was genuine. But Im not sure I know anyone who hasnt. My guess is that she was only sorry he caught her and she's been crying because she's about to become a divorced mom. How would she feel, how would she react, etc. Sorry man, I feel like we all over share with our friends sometimes. Her friends have always been cool to me. Based on the way she acts in private i would think you are right in your opinion. In this day and age? Just want to say the other husband is a stand up guy. Its fucked up to add that to a conversation just to pile on and humiliate her own husband. If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives. Then one girl left and all of a sudden the other girl is giving pointers! Well 1. Honor every feeling, but don't become paralysed by them. She didn't have your back and she put friendship with assholes over her partner in life. Even if it was a close call, you dont say that. This wasn't the first time - no one but him was shocked and all the friends knew it was safe to joke about. As long as they're not being super stupid, 100% in public and then you tell them off in private. I don't thibk this calls for a divorce but itw definitely a violation of trust and deserves to be handled as a serious issue not a minor mistake. Personally, I would consider this along the same lines of cheating in my relationship, because it's a complete breach of trust and security you're supposed to have with your partner. Now, this is fine! Anyone that believes stay for the kids has literally never had any experience as a kid whos parents stayed for them. Shes outed you twice, once under influence and this time more than completely sober, then proceeded to loudly discuss your sex life in front of a judgemental group of biphobes who then proceeded to tell their SOs about it and are now probably telling anyone wholl listen about it. You deserve so much better than this. Also sound out the wives who weren't judgemental and ask their opinions. she can claim she doesnt mean it all she wants but that will not change the fact she said it and then didnt defend you when things got ugly. She may end up escalating the situation. I told this to my then partner with all the trust in the world. If thats true then she needs to work on her confidence to be herself around her friends and nit be pressured to say things to sound cool. This is not helpful but wow. I think it wouldve been different if maybe she had some concerns and needed someone to confide in about it, but she shouldve never allowed them to speak about you that way. Its one of the biggest consequences to a pushover personality and if she wants to get back on OPs good side/have a better go with a different relationship, shes gotta level up on her backbone first. Now you know you have to be careful near her, from now on dont expose yourself that much. She doesnt respect you, man. Also arrange some couple counseling and talk it all through. From what Ive been told by friends and family my wife and Tom had a hot and cold volatile relationship and he was not the best to her (cheating, controlling). If Tom popped back into the picture at any point, Id have told my partner what happened. I don't know where you should go from here. We say things to fit in, to belong, to make people laugh, to shock people and to make ourselves seem more impressive or likeable and so on - we dont always say things just because we mean the words that come out of our mouths. Are there no angry bi men who look like grocery store managers? I absolutely agree. People aren't accepting where I live either. Truly when you come to the realisation your partner has such a low view , I sympathise a lot with you dude. Your wife betrayed your trust, and knowingly let her friends make homophobic comments. Isn't this basically reverse sexism? She does have a right to talk to you about it, and you with her. And I've faced this with my family-- I shut that crap down with a quickness. Couple of things: I have a very close group of girlfriends. BS. No. Take a few more days. A Young Boy Hires Prostitute For One Hour 42:46. There is no combination of words that will make all this just go away. My ex used to talk about our sex life to her friends all the time and though I thought things were good - I never felt comfortable with this arrangement. I think you handled that really well. But it's not cool to talk about your spouse like that to fit in and it's definitely not cool to talk about your intimate secrets with other people. How long have you been the butt of their homophobic jokes? Maybe your wife didnt feel comfortable telling her friends that she enjoyed herself because she didnt want to be judged. First, you did not overreact, this is a huge violation of your trust. Its not an easy solution. "My. Whats the point in being in relationship, in a marriage if you can't have ALL of trust, loyalty, and respect. At the beginning of the marriage endometriosis and disparei is, we spent almost an year without sex, I was always by her side, left the work early, never even thought about hookups or relief with other women. I'm not saying she will, I don't know her and can't make that call. Or no, either way it was gross as fuck. No. I totally dont get why she would lie and say he begged for the gay stuff if she was wanting it. Couples therapy is a must, but it is on your wife to earn your trust back. Be honest anyway. Who cares. Ebony milf with big tits, shaking young boy's cock in rough modes 06:00. I'm not sure how to help you, but your wife needs better friends. Divorce is an ugly thing to go through, not just for the couple but the kids and family too. Honestly, I don't know if I'd be able to get past never being able to trust her with personal stuff again. Your anger is justified, but breaking up your wonderful family over this is too much and a shame? Trust is one of those things that simply cannot be regained when broken. This was not stupid. And the fact that you're now married and settled down with a woman means you probably have a preference for women overman anyways it's 2021 dude closet doesn't have a lot of people left in it and, needing it to still feel manly is the ultimate problem here. Best of luck with whatever you decide! Theres people that will truly respect you and love you the right way. Couples counseling could work but it may also not be necessary, you two could work on it together. As others have said you've been outed and made fun of for YEARS now and the weight of that should be made apparent to your "wife". For a moment I felt ashamed. It felt terrible. I also pointed out that every single one of her relationships ended up being abusive so she had no right to tell me to leave my boyfriend when he'd never lay a finger on me. She not only outed him, but this obviously wasn't the first time they've discussed this. I suggest an open minded conversation. But 2 years later she is still talking about your most sacred aspect of your personal life, buy filling in her friends on the most private part of your life. It sounds like you're discovering a side of your wife you didn't know about. In our response, lies our growth and our freedom. Try distancing yourselves from these particular friends / connections until self estern / acceptance issues are resolved. If my friends talked about my SO like that I would be livid and we wouldnt be friends anymore. You are NOT overreacting. Youd always be thinking if you can trust them enough to give them certain information about yourself. You poor man, I so want to give you a hug. It doesn't matter if her friends judge her for things - she needs to stand up for you as her husband. The guy was asking her if she'd told me about them being together in the past. However you don't have to forgive and forget either; life isn't black and white. But she enjoys to embarrass you to her friends behind your back about it. That's only for me and my wife to know. If that partner had outed me to anyone, I would have never been able to trust them again. I don't know what I'd do. Stay strong man I can only hope you can move on from this with your confidence restored. Dude, yeah. Only one thing to do in this situation. Wife: (my name) I dunno what your heard but its not what, Me: (wifes name) I know exactly what I heard.. It sucks. Dude that story is messed up. Couples counseling may help rebuild trust. ! for a few minutes. Telephone number: 0203222111, 0719012111 I will say at least you dumped the shit on the table straight away and didn't try to eat it by yourself. So our RC is this weekend and I overheard my wife talking on the phone with a friend about it. I'd be crushed if I heard my wife's friend's say something like that, and then she just hangs me out to dry instead of standing up for me. I have also been outed in a similar way. I think the problem here is not your wife not loving you or your sex life -- it sounds like she loves you very much and enjoys y'all's sex life. Good luck, brother. I live in a fairly large Canadian metropolitan area, most guys I know and hang out with are even a little bi. Most importantly, YOU DID NOT GIVE CONSENT to the things she is talking about!! If alcohol was involved the first time she told them, maybe she was talking about it because she wanted to get a read on how her friends would react. And also refused to allow anyone to talk about it. This is now twice that she has blabbed something intensely personal while intoxicatedthat you know about. She buys all kinds of outfits and toys without me even suggesting it! He heard her, not us) about visualizing other men. There is nothing worse than feeling betrayed by the one person you thought you could trust with anything. I would be so freaking upset & sad. I mean, youre not wrong petty king/queen. Unfortunately as long as there are homophobic people out there, there is potential to damage his reputation. Are those things outweighed by her indiscrete talking (and her judgemental friends). When they reacted a little judgy then she may have backpeddled a bit. As in, never talk to them again. She brought her marriage outside where it shouldn't belong. What girl no own ya sh*t. I would be scared to death to share those acts with her again. It just seems like shes ashamed of it an projecting. Couples counseling could help. Slipping up and sharing something very private about your husband is betrayal enough. He said his wife told him what happened and he wanted to let me know he doesnt give a shit about me being bi and thinks the while situation is fucked. No one cares. You are not overreacting. I mean i think you can talk it out?? I am so sorry this has happened to you. It's mainly drunk talk and a bit of peer pressure getting to your wife and she clearly regrets it We all make mistakes sometimes but this is how you grow as a couple! People are often unreasonable and self-centered. Would she have thrown Tom under the bus like that to entertain her friends ignorance? Most people will say bi/lesbian women are "ok" because it's "hot" (I've been told that), and will see bi/gay men as an atrocity just because it's men with other men. Relationship therapy, lots of work, regaining trust. OK she was drunk and your sexuality came out in a stupid moment. Tell her to flip the genders and make it you and the "boys" doing "locker room talk" about her and all the things she likes in the bedroom. You are both going to be have to go to couples therapy and individual therapy sessions. You have every right to your feelings and if the roles were reversed there would still be hurt feelings. I had no privacy. I know that your * secret life * is very personal to you, but not many people will be concerned or even bothered about your sexuality. One friend asked her if she considered it and she said yes but ultimately she chose to stay with me because I made her happy and treated her better. Just talk. I'm sorry. I have no idea how you will be able to have sex with her. My parents stayed together for my sister and I and I honestly wish they would have split a long time ago. I think you did the right thing in the moment but I would want her to confront her friends if what she said was true and come clean herself to them, Shes bullshitting about not meaning any of it. She's probably embarrassed by that, and won't admit it to her friends fearing judgement. Your sexual relationship is basically the basis of trust in your relationship as a whole. Just the circles I run in a guess. But she also initiates in the bedroom a lot, which means at least the main idea of her bullshit is false. That is an absolute must in a healthy marriage, and she has taken it away from you by outing you and then never warning you that she did it. I got in my car and drove to my mom's house. Im sorry about your situation; not sure what I would do. You're in the feels phase of this situation, not in the action phase yet. Names have been changed. I didn't enforce it, I didn't like it and it made me feel similarly to you. I don't know that I could ever trust and be vulnerable with her again. Your wife betrayed your trust by sharing private details about your sexual preferences with other people. You were a running joke in your wife's friend group for two years. I could give the benefit of the double and believe she fakes the homophobic/biphobic stuff for her friends. She let slip things that suggests she views OP inferiorly. My worst mistake was not breaking up right away. She seems like a good egg caught in a bad moment however. No partner with a shred of empathy or decency would value the opinions of their friends over their partner's wellbeing. You poor man, I so want to give you a hug. There are good comments here, so Im not going to get into that. Good move tossing them out and then leaving as well. I am so pissed off on OP's behalf. I told her I was uncomfortable with it. Picking that moment to be the center of attention? Id also like to see those fun-o-phobes pack their bags and get out of your wifes life. Its amazing where friendship comes from in the darkest of times. If she can apologize for those things and really work on not doing them in the future, I think I'd forgive her. Go see a divorce attorney. I could never trust what to believe again. Is she going to put them as well and claim she didnt mean it and that she was just drunk or gossiping? They give up so quickly when there's a whole lifetime ahead of joy, wonder and happiness. I couldn't stop laughing at the first sentence in your comment. Just remember she was crying because she was caught. Same. This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never -- in nothing, great or small, large or petty -- never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. The bottom pine is you're supposed to be able to confide in her about these things and she's mishandled your trust. OP, Ive never been in your shoes but I can empathize with flat out betrayal. I told her I cant believe shed ever say something like that or not tell me how she felt.she continued to swear she was just being stupid and didnt mean or feel anything she said. Second, I am sorry you heard them given that I dont know exactly what it would take to rebuild trust from where you are currently. If she had doubled down and defended herself and her friends, then that would be a break up situation imo. But she's obviously done it before - all her friends knew it was okay to discuss and laugh about while she joked about letting him do "gay" stuff while she fantasies about other men. She blamed drinking for outing you in the beginning and now shes blaming it again in this situation. you need to think long and hard about if you think you can ever trust her again. This was really jarring. Cool off first of all. Peter Bridgens, 72, from Birmingham, started his tattoo suit at the age of 36 and took him I thanked him. I dont know what to do. This reeks of blatant disrespect, stupidity, ignorance, and bullshit. I would not have been able to control myself the same way no doubt. Her exact words "I feel like i settled for him. There are hundreds of roles people play all the time. First of all, I think we all say less than admirable things about our SOs at times. Winston Churchill She and her group of mean girls clearly cant accept that. You think youre slick enough to hide the resentment and anger but youre not. The only reason you know of this disrespect is because you accidentally heard them saying stuff behind your back? Im about to grab the beers and be on my way. One of the guys who was there called me and I answered. She did not need to provide more information. Just shows she has no loyalty. You can't unhear it and if you don't bring it up, your resentment will grow and your self-esteem. A marriage counselor should probably be your first step. Your story is isn't as violent, but its just as embarrassing and horrifying to hear. Thats so tough. I agree with this comment as a bi person! It was lovely that the mate called you and said what he did. But we hung on. There are plenty things I could talk about my girlfriend and make fun of her for it to my mates, but I dont because what happens between us stays between us. About number 2, she's lying and trying to back pedal. Add on the fact that her friends were telling her that Tom was in town - thats another reason she needs to drop the problematic friends. I think you did the right thing by leaving that night, although blowing up the party that was might not have been the best idea. You're not overreacting at all. Kids do the joking crap and make fun of boyfriends, not decent women. 3) Gossiping about your private life and using it as entertainment for her friends is a huge betrayal. But it needs to be on your terms. Also you say you feel emasculated. Same! Oh come.A- at least. Go out and do things during those days, don't wallow. But it does happen and people can surprise you. Im healthy and fit, exercise frequently and eat well, so that kind excludes most physiological causes. She continued to ignore my boundary. I've been married for 21+ years. First up outing someone is never good an apology can be made for that but not the making you less than convo you heard. All of us are who we are meant to be, at this particular time in our life. You two will need some couples counselling after this incident, and some of what you will do in the future will be decided by if you can overcome a natural feeling of anger and resentment that you feel. In that space is our power to choose our response. We have good jobs that the pandemic didnt effect too much. Therapy is what you need. Would she have ever stood up for you and put her friends in place? OP, be worried that you're married to someone willing to lie about how they feel about you to have a better image for their friend group. And as a low blow it is, it's an easy way out for a quick laugh among her judgemental friends. She shouldnt care what others think of her or you, let alone talk about you negatively behind your back. Doesn't matter if she means it or not. Idc about bros before hoes or chicks before dicks nonsense, when someone insults your partner behind their back its your responsibility to stand up for them, not agree with them and contribute to the drunk girl talk. Theres PLENTY of ways to do this in both confrontational and non-confrontational ways. Also, if shes lying to you about this, I feel absolutely certain that are other things you dont know. Its very helpful to be able to be open about everything with our friends, cause it makes our open marriage life so much easier without having to keep it secret and hidden, so Im really sorry that you guys have to keep your bisexuality such a secret. What can you say or she say tomorrow? I would suggest that you avoid any hasty decisions that would blow your life up until you take some time to process this on your timeline. I dont get down with revenge fucks, but if I thought she was super malicious Id be behind that comment. Mahatma Gandhi Hopefully, she falls into a better crowd that is modern and accepting. Will you ever be able to trust her with any important information again? She's just shown you that you can't trust her with your sexuality. It's terrible. But that's fucked You need to stand up for your person to your friends not play along. P.O Box 30080-00100,Nairobi, Kenya. Why should he have to tell the whole world his sexuality? One of my wifes friends was fairly insistent about her divorcing me but honestly it came from a genuine place, its a weird situation and if you cant see how happy we are, I cant blame you for not getting it. Ask her about it, give her the space to openly address it and dually try and understand why she feels that way as well as highlighting why you two are together. You dont need to have the talk tomorrow. That means she's been laughing about their sex life for a couple years, after outing him and then hiding it from him. 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