If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. To debate theology, go elsewhere. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. With Holy Fury, the Hellenic and Bn faiths can be reformed. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. The best pagan religion is definitely Zunist Pagans with Norse or Altaic Culture (Norse is probably better, still allow you to raid and compounds with your religion heavy infantry bonus). Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). Cosmopolitan - maybe for bloodline collecting? Enatic and Agnatic clans allow us to get open succession law which is super strong as we know from muslims. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. Pagans have great difficulty holding large realms together. Expect frequent raids and wars between realms that accept the new faith and those that reject it. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. Most pagans may raid neighboring provinces (and coastal provinces, if ships are available) for loot and prestige, even without a tribal government (which majority of the pagans are). As I try to have everyone with duchy and above titles be of my dynasty I have one save where I have 1000+ opinion just from veneration. For example, if you want to paint the map, pick Temporal and use GHW. This gives me some new options to consider. Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. Incompatible with Agnatic Clans, Harmonious, Equality, Polygamy and Meritocracy doctrines. Bn (Bon) is an indigenous religion of the Tibetan plateau, added in patch 2.8. Astrology also enables Hermetic society which puts it up there with the notable doctrines for me. There are better options for mix-maxing/efficient play. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. BTW, excommunications make king viceroys actually viable and not a PITA: you can excommunicate, arrest and execute a king viceroy whenever you like it, and appoint a new one. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. The devs deliberately made it so that certain societies will let you remain a member even if you are the "wrong" religion. Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? Tribal vassals who follow in reformation will no longer have opinion penalties for higher levels of tribal organization, no longer faction to lower tribal organization, and will usually vote in favor of increasing tribal organization. Agnatic, stability are very safe options, but with the ship tech boost i always manage to kidnap one of "Niall of the 9 hostages" bloodline carrier, then incorporate tanistry after 2 gens into my empire. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. It also supports early-game dominance - you are next-to-none as a Germanic ruler in 867. You can take Temporal with AV. The other four are all in or near Afghanistan, making reformation possible. Intermarry Buddhist, Zoroastrian group. Recommended Posts. In fact, if they have high moral authority, and have damaged rival religions' moral authority with their conquests and stolen holy sites, or control unreformed pagan lands, they will soon be flooded with notices of conversions of territories that are held by their vassals, who will put forth serious effort to convert their lands to their new faith. Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. Except if you have founded bloodines with male rulers already. No male in the council. The reason I don't like to pick it is that the bonuses apply to my vassals and makes them much stronger. I like this feature but it's tough to convert others outside your realm. It has synergy with Agnatic and Enatic doctries, giving us new CB for Patriarchal and Matriarchal depositions. Another approach is to try new mechanics (to pick Haruspicy, Animism, Veneration) or to add useful abilities to existing faiths (e.g. Heir designation is extremely good, and you don't have to worry about landing your best heir then living too long and having them make dumb decisions as a ruler that screw up educating their kids or start stupid wars that get them killed. My guide was more aimed at the casual/experienced player rather than the hardcore veteran (hardcore veterans don't need guides/tierlists!). Rulers can choose to gain sympathy with another faith by decisions. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Penalties The below table contains all 53 religions from Crusader Kings II, along with all religion IDs, for use in console commands such as religion. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Crusader Kings II. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion. Holy sites: Balkh, Gilgit, Lhasa, Purang and Khotan. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. I always found piety to be very uselful here, excommunication is a very powerful tool if you use it strategically. Also for flavour. Choosing you own heir and not receiving penalty opinion for raised levies it too good to pass up. Tengri, worship of the Sky Father, is the religion of the Steppe and the bulk of its followers are nomads, whose lands stretch from Danube to Mongolia. Eldership succession law is allowed. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. "IN THEORY" 95% of the time it works every time. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have the piety, holy sites, and MA to reform, but would like advice on the "best" options for reformation. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. In later starts, expanding north becomes increasingly difficult and by 1066, many rulers of the area have converted to Islam. Thread starter AwesomeKeith; Start date Mar 26, 2016; Jump to latest Follow Reply . Note that reformed pagans may not send missionaries, the only organized religion group with this distinction. I agree, meliorism should have notification. Ruler can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attribute. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. Haruspicy and Astrology effects. The last playable Slavic ruler is Chief Testislaw of Dyrmin. +5% Morale of armies. Clearly Messalian. Rulers can order subject to Take the Vows. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. However, by 1337, only two chiefs in northern Finland/Sweden follow the faith, with the rest of Finno-Ugric lands being divided between Catholic/Orthodox Christians and the Sunni Golden Horde. If that bloodline gets passed down it's a great way to boost up prestige in the early reign of your descendants. You trade some of your offensive/defensive capability for stability, faster conversion, and Great Holy Wars to combat Crusades and Jihads. . My first choice was Unyielding, Harmonious (Meritocracy + Equality), Stability, and Hierocratic. Rulers who are neither at war, nor raiding, nor bound by an active truce lose a significant amount of prestige per month. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. Christianity, Islam, Eastern religions, reformed pagan faith, etc. Monasticism is definitely top tier, as it allows you to make any succession law work the way you want, not to mention the flat learning boost. Playing from this start is more difficult, as Kiev is bordered to the south by the Tengri Khaganate of Magyars. Also without Proselytizing my own vassals never bothered to spread their own religion. You finally conquered all the holy sites and can reform your pagan religion in Crusader Kings II (CK2), but there are so many choices now that you just need to look up what everything means. Additionally, Unyielding is a bit of a jack of all trades if you want to blob, Proselyting is better for converting provinces. I've played as African pagan a lot since HF dropped and I'd never ever take TG over AV. Tax on subjects of different religious group is allowed. No female temple holders. Bloodthirsty gods is very fun, we can get a bloodline, have our champion win several death matches, and we have access to Flower War cb which cripples enemy economy when we win. I think Polygamy would be powerful. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. Enatic Clans doctrine is extra powerful because one can easily 'breed in' several bloodlines by simply doing matrilineal marriages over a few generations. Stability is useless without Eldership law. For every pagan religion there is a special Doctrine, unique only to them, that is most often than not more powerful than normal Doctrines. Hellenic). Eastern Orthodoxy, Miaphysite Christianity, Allows sacrifice of thralls captured in raids, Allows sacrifice of courtiers to read entrails, Once per decade interpretation of stars by religious head or court chaplain if none exists, Education improvement synergy and Meliorism improvement synergy. Best one in the loser tier. (Hellenic religion lacks concubines), You can't declare holy wars if You have the peaceful doctrine. You want to play Sunni, because you can either get free learning or piety for even faster conquests. Hi, before Holy Fury release I posted my tier list for pagan doctrines, https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9sfvtr/my_holy_fury_reformation_doctrine_tier_list/. So is it bug or is it not a bug? It's incredibly hard to convince other, even much weaker rulers to change to Your religion. ( But Imperial Succession is nearly same as heir designation so you may want to pick the Religious tax doctrine to get tons of cash. They then become the "Reformed" version. However, stability is very low, and you have little control over your realm. +40% garrison size in county of this religion. Followers 0. With tribal mechanics, pagans cannot raise Tribal Organization very high without having severe relations penalty for tribal Unreformed Pagan vassals (-30 opinion with Absolute). Btw, is there any reason NOT to take unyelding? Yea i know all that, and i never said i liked it. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. The only cb you'll ever need is alexanders invasion. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. Unrelenting cannot be picked with unyielding, and it cancels out any unreformed levy or troops bonus. Ancestor Worship decision available. Cannot create Warrior Lodge if it does not already exist. Don't @ me, if you dis. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. You get a 30+ opinion bonus with the dynasty you venerated. Standard stuff for defensive pagans. Combined with not paying any penalty for raising their vassals' levies, this means offensive pagans can muster forces far beyond what their technological levels would suggest. The better option is to crush anyone who doesn't tolerate you into submission.". Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Stability removes short reign penalty, which was not a problem for me ever. Every religion in the world pretty much tolerates you, it's pretty stable, and you can marry back into it to acquire bloodlines if you leave it somewhere to grow by itself. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. Reformed pagans no longer get a defense attrition bonus, and will incur attrition in the territory of unreformed pagans, except those who follow the old form of their own religion. If tribal, remember that demesne counties which are still following the old faith will give less tax and levies. Each one can only occur at a certain, and different, time each year. It says we can spend piety to improve curtier abilities but we can do it once per 5 years and can improve stat for one point. Sky Burials. Ruler do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. Messalianism because it's the single most outlandish religion in the game. True, but I wanted to avoid cheese/gamey mechanics when making this tierlist. Any tribal leader, whose religion is pagan unreformed, neighbouring a realm whose leader's religion is organized - e.g. Access to Hermetic society. Full status of woman law is enforced. This allows other pagans (especially Tengri and Germanic pagans) to fairly easily invade other pagans with conquest and subjugation casus belli. Nature: Unyielding sounds good on paper, but if you plan on having a large realm I'm not sure it's great because it takes a long time for counties to change to your religion. Top tier for me are Catholicism/Fraticelli and the Muslim ones. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. Hellenism (Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit), Incompatible with Religious Tax and Civilized doctrines, Incompatible with Sons of Ragnarok doctrine. Have fun dealing with retaining those. With the exception of the reformed Germanic religion, the faith will also immediately gain a holy order. They also have access to two special casus belli: Most pagans have defensive attrition, massively reducing the supply limit for non-pagans invading their homeland. The resulting empty holding slots further strengthens the horde. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. With Holy Fury, each pagan faith (except Aztecs) has an associated Warrior Lodge, a society focused on combat. If you've ever wondered about in CK2, how do you change religion, now you know! However, a religion can only have one "unit modifier", so offensive pagans will lose levy size and other bonuses if they select a reformation feature that adds a competing "unit modifier". Meritocracy with the best part of Warmongering nature? You have to get a popemon or autocephaly for it though. All units gain 80% to defense when fighting enemies in a province of the combatant's religion. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. Note that Germanic pagans have as a holy site the county of Braunschweig, and taking that county will trigger the Catholic crusades (as well as the formation of every Catholic Holy Order but the Knights Templar) at the time that you take Braunschweig, so long as the year is 900 and the province is Christian. Seabound is just useless without Daring and picking these two doctrines is silly (unless we are not getting bored with constant raiding on our foes). Sometimes simple solutions are the best. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. Cairo is distant and usually controlled by major Muslim powers. Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Norse: Cultural one, then either agnatic, stability or blood sacrifices, depending on playstyle. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. The version without a religious head and Great Holy War becomes a heresy and is called the "Old" version of the religion. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. Please help with verifying or updating older sections of this article.At least some were last verified for version 3.0. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Eldership Succession law is available, Bloodthirsty Gods + Seabound + Unrelenting, Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies + Syncretism + Meritocracy. Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. However, the longer the faith goes unreformed, the weaker it becomes. I would suggest against prepared invasions/warmongering as it leads to rather unstable vassals, and generally does not benefit you personally as the leige as you will far exceed the maximum realm size requirement. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. Matrilineal marriages are disabled. +1 piety per month while at peace. Generic Paganism and Hellenism, obivously. Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! Peacefull is OK, but greatly reduces your ability to expand. In game terms, reformed pagans no longer face the restrictions on crown authority, succession, independence wars and conversion that other pagans do. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. * Your mileage may vary. This is in addition to the pagan homeland attrition penalty, which forces the large numbers of troops needed to invade a defensive pagan home territory to face severe attrition for the duration of any siege. The first thing you will choose is one Nature. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. The Slavic faith is almost gone in the 1066 starting date, and the faith disappears from the world entirely by 1200. Temporal rests power with you, and gives you bonuses, and you can . Germanic pagans do not have to reform to create the Jomsvikings; instead, they must control Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle.). Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. Ilmen in 769 already holds Novgorod as its capital, is a decently strong start, and has the advantage of being able to flip to Russian culture once the faith is reformed, allowing the acquisition of the "Russkaya Pravda" achievement. Reformed religions gain access to holy wars, usable on any target of a different faith (including other pagans). Also, as tech advances, rival feudal realms can take advantage to construct better buildings for greater economic and military power. All holders of holdings do not have to be Muslim for this tax to apply the top ruler being it is enghout. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Right now before I will be able to even convert rest of my provinces, they already do it.*. But later, feudal realms grow their income more quickly, while raiding becomes less feasible as targets consolidate. Historically, the pagan faiths were gradually supplanted by Christianity, Islam, Dharmic religions, and Eastern religions, but this does not necessarily happen in the game. They also gain access to Great Holy Wars if the Catholics have unlocked Crusades or the Muslims have unlocked Jihads. AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Now you have to choose from many CK2 Doctrines two that you think will fit most with your Pagan Reformation. Thread starter Mr. Moonlight; Start date Sep 13, . The only realm following this faith is the Zunbil Satrapy in western Afghanistan. Example: Your sister matri marries some guy from Ashina dynasty, they have a daughter for example, all you have to do is to matri marry her to your male heir. Youre all but guaranteed the successor you want, and unlike Open succession you dont have to worry about your AI heir doing stupid things when you land them. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. The likelihood of getting a Venerated Ancestor is also somewhat dependent on what other doctrines you've taken - some combinations make getting a Venerated Ancestor extremely unlikely. "Offensive" pagans get a bonus to their levy size (+30% levy size for Germanic, for example). If someone used it with success please advocate this nature in comments. 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