Nowhere Mr. Velumani degraded any other community. Weclome to another PMK in the making .Eagle. **/Please tell me the reason.. i will explain later./** Atleast here they can be on their own - there is no two tumbler system in cities, they can go to any restaurants - as long as they can pay nobody will ask them to go out, they can go to any temples - they can roam on any streets**/YOu seem to paint a rosy picture of the cities which is not true..First tell me, what is wrong with two tumbler system.Secondly, in cities everything is only for commercial.. but even then, a typical restaurant will not allow a dalit, if he wears the rural dress..Also, leave alone dalit.. can a rural people in his rural attire enter a 5 star hotel? Thank you velumani sir, i was not able to reply due to personal reasons and i had arranged the marriage for my sister, with our caste mapillai itself. By its manifesto it has shown that it is for the development of the region. You cant come out of the caste mindset even within your party. Age, Height : 26 Yrs, 5 Ft 2 In . But have we organized ourselves locally? Copyrights All Rights Reserved by konguvellalargounders.blogspot.in. community is a Scheduled Caste) 114 121 Pannayar (including Kathikarar in Kanniyakumari district) 115 122 Pannirandam Chettiar or Uthama Chettiar 116 Kongu Vellalar (including Vellala Gounder & Nattu Gounder, Narambukkatti Gounder, Tirumudi Vellalar, Thondu Vellalar, Pala Gounder, Poosari Gounder, . is guaranteed but not to exploit others. All the comments will be moderated by the newindianexpress.com editorial. Kongu region has been long neglected. Kongu Matrimony Kongu Vellala Gounder Matrimonial portal. Not all brahmins are castist, we must unite all castes and engineer a good social development where everyone becomes proud of his/her birth and origin. There is heavy, hard & violent racism by dravidian racists../** My original grouse against KVG's is - though they are one of the advanced communities in terms of social standing, business, education and agriculture - why do they want to ride on the caste bandwagon - and their top two demands - repealing/amendment of PCR act and exclusive reservation of KVG'S is uncalled for .**/TO understand this, you need to first understand the reality of caste system, with open mind..for that you need to read Dharampal's book.. www.dharampal.netunless the above happens, what ever i say, you will never understand or accept..regarding PCR, most of it are abused by the SC's.. i have seen many families who were affected because of this act, when the dalit worker has to pay any debt or loan back to the farmer.. Mr. Eagle,YOu are writing like a typical academecian.. You are sensationalising and blowing up the issue..We can also write comments like you.. see it below..The pain of havenots unable to survive in the societyThe cornering of resources by the riches and discriminating the poor.The pain of being exploited by the urban elites for the paltry sum..The pain of slum dwellers, whose area of living is looted by the urbanites.The pain of hunger, because there is no money to live in..The pain of disease, unable to pay heft doctor fees, The pain of the rural people, who were exploited to the core by the urban elites.The urban sewages being diverted to rural areas, spoiling their livelyhood, their environment..I can list out so on and on and on..The very life of an urbanite discriminates the rural people..It is the urbanites who are using slumdwellers to clean their toilets, and clean their septic tanks..You cannot find those in rural villages..In rural villages, the dalits had a means to live, even without a single penny..In rural villages, eventhough untouchability existed, the higher caste always helped them in times of difficulty.. A great compilation.You have mentioned that KVK(Kongu Vellala Kavunder) caste population is declining. [60][61] The Vellalar nobles had marriage alliances with Chola royal families. [21], Widow remarriage was forbidden at the turn of the 20th century, and those who had intimate relations with widows were ostracised. pls don't be so fanatic and don't try to muddle others thinking, especially our new generation. [g] While some of the Jains assign this conversion to the period of the Bhakti movement in Tamil nadu others link it to a conflict with a ruler of the Vijayanagar empire in the 15th century. /** If I could make a 10% change in your viewpoints that is enough for me **/This is the core problem here.. you consider yourself as moral authority and attempt to change me.. instead of debating, your aim is changing me.. /**Untouchability is a crime. In addition, enter your horoscope details . (his professional): Epigraphical Assistant, Archaeological Survey of India, South Zone, Madras Among the losers in these constituencies were EVKS Elangovan and K V Thangabalu of Congress. How can KNMP wash off its sins?with regards to our fellow kongu indian citizensaru pon natarajan pollachi. They figure among the global leaders in several sectors including grey cotton, home textiles, hosiery, industrial and automobile components, heavy vehicles and even turmeric and eggs. What have these educationists and industrialists done other than giving fat donations to our political parties from which they have alone benefitted.Walk through the region, you will see people and their suffering.. Why do you talk about gounders, nadars, chettiars etc and go back to the history of humiliation and inhuman practices?why do our farmers sell farm land to real estate owners? 1 0 obj <>>>>> endobj 2 0 obj <> endobj 3 0 obj <> endobj 4 0 obj <> endobj 5 0 obj <> endobj 6 0 obj <> endobj 7 0 obj <>stream polling in pollachi is 76 percent..and not 65 percent as reported earlier..which looks favour for kongu..prakashpollachi@yahoo.com..plse mail me any pollachi friends. The region of Kongunadu originally belongs to the Kurinji (tropical evergreen mountainous) and Mullai types (tropical deciduous plateau) which were originally densely to medium sparsely forested. Eagle.. dont think, you know everything and others are fools..I am a software engg, and i strongly support my caste..CAste is the strength of Hinduism, and India.. Mahendra-Medara: 83. They later, for deforesting the land brought in the Vettuvar tribes, descendents of Kannappa Nayanar from the Kalahasti region. Are there equivalent lists of Scottish clans, for example? They use 'gounder' as a title and hence they are also known as Kongu Vellala Gounders. Only very few people may be like that. You see how many parties are spending crores of money for nothing.. and they want to earn the crores from others..Friends, being born and brought up in the heart of Kongu region, i am proud of my kongu indian identity, i am interested in the development of my region, but i tell you how mean we are.. we wanted to start a school, but a big land owner does not want to sell a 10 feet land for road.. hundreds of people live in the fields of land owners and work and protect their properties, but they don't have electricity in their huts, no toiletsDo you know the social reality of kongu region? [46][47], The Vellalars of Sri Lanka have been chronicled in the Yalpana Vaipava Malai and other historical texts of the Jaffna kingdom. When they return, they are touched by an arumaikkarar with a betel leaf dipped on oil, milk and water. We are from legends and now heading toward nowhere. Kongu Vellala Gounder Caste belongs to OBC category in india. Looking to create a Kongu stronghold The link by Hindu Site states that Kongu were Forward Caste. ( for us they still modavanti gounders..for other castes they are gounders..)super gounder better choose kongu vellala mapalai itself.. Dear Kongu Friend,First of all we should know that if anybody declares that they belong to Kongu Vellala community, then ask about their Kulam alias Koottam. Here all are equal. KNMP watches the others and by organizing marches, a threat is given to others. Careers, Home | Nation | World | Cities | Business | Columns | Entertainment | Sport | Magazine | The Sunday Standard, Now we are on Telegram too. " " ..80 16 .. .. /** Shame on you for saying that you are a software engg. We must make an effort to include all other communities in our forward progress for the development of the Kongu region. These people did not settle down at a single major point in history. vanakkam uyir ullangale. naan kongu naattil piranthatharkaga perumai padukiren. The stone is said to represent the Kongu king and the worship is a symbolic request for permission of the marriage, as in the old days the king was supposed to give permission for every marriage. With the Chief Ministers announcement, the State would recommend the regrouping of caste names into one. But i am afraid the dirty politicians play their role cunningly and split it like Vivasayihal Sangam. May be your Thirupur candidate also .the total of other constituency might be around one to two lakh - so a max of six lakhs is the vote you got ..spread over 12 constituencies ..You cant go beyond ward or panchayat level with this vote *bank* .You said during nomination itself Best got a crowd of 50,000 ??? If we cannot sit with everyone and talk and decide then we cannot develop ourselves. While examining the recommendation, the SC/ST Commission would associate with expert individuals, organizations and institutions in the fields of anthropology, ethnography and other social sciences and Anthropological Survey of India. I have some boys in good position.If u r interested pls tell abt u and ur family and ur sister. It should be reformed so that it is not used for personal vengeance..Apart from reservation and pcr acts there are other things which has to be attended in kongu area..Can you list the development schemes undertaken by the government for the past 40 years in the kongu region.. 4 38 Korwar Korwari Kaikadi Koragar Yerkala Erakala Kunchi Korva Koramasetty Yerukala 12011/68/93-BCC(C ) dt 10/09/1993 12011/21/95-BCC,dt.15/05/1995 This is nothing but exploitation of bright minds like you. Tell me one educational institution of that nature in our region. Coming to the Vellalas, Andre Beteille, an authority on caste in South India writes: The term 'Vellala' is rather confusing because of its comprehensive use. [2][3][4] Interestingly the Gandadikara Vokkaligas of the neighbouring parts of Karnataka also claim origin from the banks of the Ganges. The Kongu Vellala Goundergal Peravaipassed a resolution in favor of formation of Kongu Nadu state by bifurcating Tamil Nadu. When you close your mind, there can be no discussions.. you can accuse me of anything, and you will always take the moral authority and start advicing me..Good and bad things are highly relative.. in the world of rapists and murderers, a petty thief would be the most good person..In the world of saints and wise people, the same thief will be the most bad person..SO, judge history based on world occurances..I have already pointed you about american slave system there.. the slaves dont have any protection, and the owner buy and sell them at their wishes.. the slave women were sexually exploited at will..Such brutality did not happen in india, because, untouchability provided a psychological barrier b/w communities.. this prevented dominant communities from exploiting weaker ones,..Also, indian history of polity is always consensus based.. take down any village panchayat.. it will show you that the judge themselves has to give judgement before the people.. Not like the current ones..In our historic tradition, the people had always the right to oppose.. if people find a king as unjust, they instantly moved to nearby one who provides justice..So, come out of the well and see the world in full perspective..To actually know more about our history, read dharampal's books at the following url..www.dharampal.netParticularly download the book "The beautiful tree" and read it.. /** I assume you work in Bangalore/Chennai but your native is Erode/Kovai. Someone like thooran should write the history of our caste(unbiased!). In the TN election history except Congress, DMK and AIADMK no other party has won 50 seats In the current TN politics certain things are simply impossible Whether KNMP leadrship realises it or not ..you dont waste your time dreaming on that .Take care.Eagle. http://www.dinamani.com/edition/story.aspx?&SectionName=Semmozhi+News&artid=262562&SectionID=208&MainSectionID=208&SEO&Title=%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A8%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D+%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D+%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AF%8D Palani Anda Nadu Kongan venman (talk) 13:03, 30 April 2011 (UTC), Tamil-Brahmi Rock Bed Inscription, watch out for MLA election also in most of the constituency there are even 90 percent gounders living.it seems atleast 15 seats is going to be won by knmp with ease.already dmk is positioned third.watch out for religion party mmk spliting dmk votes and making way for knmp candidate to win in pollachi and in coimbatore. . I'm a Gounder from Karur. after winning the elections with congress votes, he is asking for ministerial berths to his family members only expose such a party among people!Dear Eagle, be sensible.. there is no need to mock at anybody. You have done reasonably well in the old Kovai district. This comment has been removed by the author. Be considerate and truthful, use your knowledge and brain - caste system is the bane for human society - to the extent possible try to defuse it - if not dont become part of it. One theory derives it from the Tamil word Kaamindan, meaning "noble protector of the country", later modified as Kavundan or Gounder. ulagukke unavu tharum unnatha thozhil nam vivasayam.. this blog is really great to know about our prestigious caste.. let we all join hand to rule the world.. all the best to all my relatives in this world. mr.velumani kongu lion.. i really appreciate ur words and ur sincerety towards ur kongu community. Why do they need a party today? Let us see the results and you pass your comments.Degrading our community is not necessary now.Considering our community people's magnanimity and generosity, other caste people will also vote for us. The Gounders have been credited by many as unique among the other caste groups of the region and southern India as a whole. They have been instrumental in the welfare of the Kongunadu zone, which is predominantly rainfed but blest with a cooler tropical plateau climate. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Meluhha and Agastya: Alpha and Omega of the Indus Script", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vellalar&oldid=1134209189, This page was last edited on 17 January 2023, at 14:45. Kongu Vellalars( including Vellala Gounder, Nattu Gounder, Narambukkatti Gounder, Tirumudi Vellalar, Thondu Vellalar, Pala Gounder, Poosari, Gounder, Anuppa Vellala Gounder, Kurumba Gounder, Padaithalai Gounder, Chendalai Gounder, Pavalankatti Vellala Gounder, Pallavellala GounderSanku,Vellala Gounder,and Rathinagiri Gounder). [36] The Chola inscriptions state that the Velaikkara forces pledged under oath to commit suicide in case they failed to defend their king or in the event of his death. It is a family. The Velama and Ballai castes of the neighboring states of Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka, respectively, are believed to be historically related to the Vellala, but at . There is soft-racism by Brahmins.**/3. That is what i want to create in our region but our land owners do not have generousity to give a 10 feet road because we are jealousy and greedy and we don't like others moving upwards.. the crabs culture. Location : Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. Many of the Nayanmars, the Shaiva saints, were Vellalar. In Coimbatore, Pollachi and Erode, the party polled more than one lakh votes, in Tiruppur 95,299 votes and in Namakkal 52,433 votes. Learn.best wishesaru pon natarajan varanasi [i work in UP], Aru Pon Natarajan,You are being polite and considerate to KVG's. Village provides these things..No one ties the dalits in villages.. they have their own freedom.. i don't know whether it has already been done. You seem to be very informed, but why bring your fight here. Contents 1 Demographics 2 History 2.1 Theories of Origin 3 Lineage (Kootam) and Subgroups 3.1 Royal Lineages and Gothras 3.2 Subgroups 4 Language of Gounders 5 Peculiar customs 6 Marriage customs Wonderful information. There are number of derivations for the title. [16] The term Vellalar itself occurs in the sense of a landowner in Paripadal. Good posting, Arun. do not field any outside candidate in a constituency. That's why we are demanding that we should be treated as MBCs," demanded K C Kaliannan, chairman of the Kongu Vellalar Sangangalin Peravai. It may refer to communities such as the , Kongu Vellalars, Kurumbas, Tuluva Vellalars, Uralis, Vanniyars, Vettuvars and Vokkaligas. Tamils, my dear tamils, think before you vote..my dear friends of KNMP, i appeal to you as fellow citizen of Kongu Nadu, if we go back to the barbarian brahminical order, then you will not develop the region.. you will bring unrest in the region. Directory Equal opportunity is a fundamental right. As per Indian constitution. Why you are so wild against this community, you being part of it. Later only they reworded their agenda and started the rhetoric about Kongu development .. their attitude to Dalits (Arundhadhiyars in our region) is not going to change overnight. Hi Please don take this offensive.im also KV, Ur efforts are awesome n great and very informative. NAMATHU ETIRKAALAM EPPADI AMAIYA VEENDUM ENTRU MUDIVU SEIYALAAM ANAIVARUM VAARUNGAL ! Coimbatore Kongu Vellala Gounder Matrimony - Search lakhs of Kongu Vellala Gounder Brides and Grooms on CoimbatoreMatrimony, the most trusted matrimonial website to find someone who cares for what you love! Respect other parties7. Good luck to them. If the item is sufficiently notable then it will have been covered by much newer works created by people with a neutral point of view. We will continue this. Kongumandalasatakam says that the cattle raid was successfully repelled by Arjuna (Bruhannala) with Uttarakumaran, the son of the King Viratarayan of Ladapuram (modern Dharapuram) at a skirmish at the banks of the Kanchi (Noyil) (dates: 3100 B.C, Mahabharata). I am more proud to call myself a 'Tamilian' than a Gounder. [58], The Vellalar were considered to be of high status and enjoyed a high rank during the Chola period. after winning he has to obey his/her leaders command who is also a caste based person.. so we directly vote for ourselves..you can say we are threatening the sc people to vote for us..but what about the christians and muslims who joins us..the number may be small but it is changing in tamil nadu politics..not only them but nadars,navidhars and various communities are supporting us as they are bound with us and they want a change in the region..again i am saying that dont tell that we are like hitler because we dont compel any body to vote for us but we request them, Dear Rajkumar,I do understand that our region has some problems. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. (www.wikepedia.com)watch out these links(http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Vellala_Gounder)it mentioned more than 10% tis site has been created b4 8 yrs. tis mention tat d population is abov 80L and watch out in tis site wat thy hav mentioned tat (kongu vellalars r not in political and thy hav been negleted)to fulfil our basic requirment v started our party (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=population+of+kongu+vellalar+founders+in+tamil+nadu&ns0=1&redirs=0)can u giv me d data tat wch u say d lawyer hav submitted???? Thanks for the blog. i belong to villi kulam. Retention of certain caste in the list. Website Designed, Developed & Maintained by Express Network Private Ltd. Follow us for updates, Four in five professionals in India considering job change in 2023, FIR against Nawab Malik's son, daughter-in-law forallegedlyusing fake documents in visa application, Delhi-Centre services row:AAP govt seeks clear demarcation of power, SC reserves verdict, BSF seizes Chinese weapons dropped by Pakistan drone 8 km inside Indian territory in Punjab. iam proud to born in this great caste "KONGU VELLALA GOUNDER" & also in the kootam of Theivathiru vallalperunthagai "KALINGARAYAGOUNDER". Palani Anda Nadu Kongan venman (talk) 12:39, 30 April 2011 (UTC). siva. So try to get away from this proposal. But in the Nilgris you have ditched your candidate because he is an SC. It is a wonderful piece with lots of information. Adi; 3. Saiva Vellala Mudaliars and Saiva Pillais are equal to the vellala gounders. Despite the party performing rather well in Erode, Pollachi and Tiruppur, the community leaders did enough ground work to ensure the victory of Gounders who had contested on MDMK and AIADMK tickets. are the best example.Anyway I am proud to be Gounder community. I think if that is the aim of KNMP, then it will be an alternative to others. Period. I don't think anyone opposes such initiatives. EAGLE . EAGLE .soon to come.. pls all kongu are vote only (KNMP).TELL OTHER ALSO.THEN ONLY KONGU NADU WILL DEVELOPED.SO ALL OUR RELATIVES HELP.PLS ALL ARE GIVE MAIL ID .THEN ONLY DEVELOPE OUR RELATION.kongufdvasanth@gmail.com. 50,000 people gathered with BEST RAMSAMY in pollachi today for the filing of nomination..the biggest crowd ever..vote for kongu. . Again we want that ruling power. Name Email. [8], Large groups of peasants from the plains soon began to migrate into the Kongu Nadu region starting in the 10th century from many places, with migration peaking in the 13th century. Let us give a wide publicity among our Kongu Lions and their families. It is also widely believed that the Saiva Vellalas of Madras State who are stricter vegetarians than even Tamil Brahmins, were Jainas. CHENNAI: With the quota for Hindu OBCs shrinking in Tamil Nadu after the implementation of 3.5 per cent reservation each for Christian and Muslim OBCs, the Kongu Vellalar Gounders have demanded . Yes, KNMP should be a party of all castes and communities in Kongu region. [3], "Tamil Nadu / Coimbatore News: Kongu Vellala Gounders launch party", "Tamil Nadu / Coimbatore News: Looking to create a Kongu stronghold", Website of Kongu Vellala Goundergal Peravai organisations, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kongu_Vellala_Goundergal_Peravai&oldid=1075952697, This page was last edited on 8 March 2022, at 15:11. 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